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主题:panasonic怕了索尼哥的NEOP等离子G10系列性价比高哇

nye
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Panasonic P46G10c
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入手的TF说说看 相比1万5千多元等级的液晶
色彩 层次 相应 downloading


panasonic怕了索尼哥的NEOP等离子G10系列性价比高哇by nye



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发表于:2009-09-06 21:08:41
推荐:牙齿有问题,您找我! ...楼主...

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绝对好东西。不过,如果你会调出工程菜单调颜色的话,s系列性价比更高



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这个家伙很懒,什么也没留下......

发表于:2009-09-06 21:10:13

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点击查看全图

绝对好东西。不过,如果你会调出工程菜单调颜色的话,s系列性价比更高


差大约2000元左右 区别似乎是子场驱动 面板



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发表于:2009-09-06 21:20:37
推荐:畅玩天下贰,精彩玄幻飞行 ...第2楼...

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downloading



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发表于:2009-09-06 21:29:07

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G10停产了 松下马上要出G11了
V系列才是松下的顶级pdp



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发表于:2009-09-06 21:33:11

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准备如G10的, 46寸据说9600就能拿下



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长期求职,外企财务

发表于:2009-09-06 21:34:17
推荐:kds红日官网启动啦!!! ...第5楼...

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G10停产了 松下马上要出G11了
V系列才是松下的顶级pdp


给老人家看的 只要不拖尾就可以了



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发表于:2009-09-06 21:46:53
推荐:KDS红日球迷会2010招募公告 ...第6楼...

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G10停产了 松下马上要出G11了
V系列才是松下的顶级pdp



给老人家看的 只要不拖尾就可以了


s系列可以了



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这个家伙很懒,什么也没留下......

发表于:2009-09-06 21:57:58

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准备如G10的, 46寸据说9600就能拿下


团购价? 国美苏宁还是百思买京东?



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发表于:2009-09-06 22:25:56

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引用:
引用:
G10停产了 松下马上要出G11了
V系列才是松下的顶级pdp



给老人家看的 只要不拖尾就可以了

s系列可以了

话是这么说 是买过液晶 他们看着头晕
毕竟他们的眼睛已经好几年下来看惯原装进口SONY ES34M90 CRT的色彩 层次 相应表现了
现在只好买个让他们觉得不比以前差多少的等离子了



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发表于:2009-09-06 22:30:07

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使用 42PZ700C的飘过downloading



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发表于:2009-09-06 22:31:16

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downloading



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发表于:2009-09-07 00:10:42
推荐:打造KDS最美贴,刹那芳华 ...第11楼...

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使用50pz的飘过



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发表于:2009-09-07 00:12:47

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pz800c如何?



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发表于:2009-09-07 18:35:50
推荐:科帕奇SUV俱乐部版主招募 ...第13楼...

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50 pz800发来贺电.....
效果绝对嗲 近距离甚至你能看出高码率1080P和低码率的区别
看过这个绝对LCD就是一炮五 而且切换频道那个快啊downloading



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发表于:2009-09-07 18:37:41
推荐:【车型PK】科鲁兹PK世嘉 ...第14楼...

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pz800c如何?

pz系列才是好东西,不过停产了吧downloading



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我家用的是PZ80C,还行吧



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Omega,Tissot,Longines,Rado,Mido,Certina,Hamilton,Tiffany
Professional Sales Consultant.

发表于:2009-09-07 18:44:12
推荐:长期更新,从懂事到现在 ...第16楼...

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同是 50pz的飘过



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宽带山比佘山高吗?&amp;nbsp;
KDS DOG CLUB 40154905

发表于:2009-09-07 18:46:43

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松下的东西其实一般般,屏幕很闪要有心理准备
同类产品S系列性价比不如B550,V系列效果不如B850,虽然三星是棒子货



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凡事记住三个字--莫争

发表于:2009-09-07 18:46:48
推荐:本能寺之变 ...第18楼...

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松下的东西其实一般般,屏幕很闪要有心理准备
同类产品S系列性价比不如B550,V系列效果不如B850,虽然三星是棒子货


are you 肯定 思密达?



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宽带山比佘山高吗?&amp;nbsp;
KDS DOG CLUB 40154905

发表于:2009-09-07 18:48:18

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其实还是等离子最实惠阿 就是耗电量和发热。。。。。
800C上面+后面ms 5个风扇。。。 不过效果 当初觉得880C还要好downloading



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发表于:2009-09-07 18:50:27
推荐:【车型PK】大众朗逸VS荣威550 ...第20楼...

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松下话不多说的,用过才有资格发言downloading
不过东西好贵好,价格还是downloading



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很想知道自己想要什么

发表于:2009-09-07 18:52:52

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松下的东西其实一般般,屏幕很闪要有心理准备
同类产品S系列性价比不如B550,V系列效果不如B850,虽然三星是棒子货



are you 肯定 思密达?


http://www.jdbbs.com/viewthread.php?tid=2042293&highlight=%C8%FD%D0%C7

自己看



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凡事记住三个字--莫争

发表于:2009-09-07 18:55:26

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50g10用户发来贺电~



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我们长的象空气只是默默的存在 !!

发表于:2009-09-07 18:55:39

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其实还是等离子最实惠阿 就是耗电量和发热。。。。。
800C上面+后面ms 5个风扇。。。 不过效果 当初觉得880C还要好

点击查看全图

我那会穷的哒哒滴,只能买了个日立的a101c这样的垃圾款式,不过现在看下来确实不错downloading



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发表于:2009-09-07 18:56:10
推荐:迎新年牙齿美容大行动 ...第24楼...

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准备42S10C,但是在BB发现很暗啊

相比上一代

S系列就是在相同画面下,降低功耗

G系列就是在相同功耗下,增加亮度

看个人喜欢了downloadingdownloading



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战火硝烟中的背叛与我们在太平盛世中的背叛相较而言,就天真单纯得多了!
初恋的人们心存紧张并满怀柔情,但却可以抵御一切------只因为心如烈火!

发表于:2009-09-07 18:58:07
推荐:被戴绿帽,心情极度差 ...第25楼...

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downloading

苏宁没有松下的机器,我直接看单子。
89xx买了一个50寸的,效果不错啊。

就是乡下那个5500的42寸,不能接DM500downloading
IPTV不能接AV,要接色差downloading
不然,没法看



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不是你经得起诱惑,而是诱惑还不够大

发表于:2009-09-07 18:58:16

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42的S要350W,G要450W了downloadingdownloadingdownloading



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战火硝烟中的背叛与我们在太平盛世中的背叛相较而言,就天真单纯得多了!
初恋的人们心存紧张并满怀柔情,但却可以抵御一切------只因为心如烈火!

发表于:2009-09-07 18:58:42

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松下的东西其实一般般,屏幕很闪要有心理准备
同类产品S系列性价比不如B550,V系列效果不如B850,虽然三星是棒子货


捏鼻头做梦



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这个家伙很懒,什么也没留下......

发表于:2009-09-07 18:58:47

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准备42S10C,但是在BB发现很暗啊



相比上一代



S系列就是在相同画面下,降低功耗



G系列就是在相同功耗下,增加亮度



看个人喜欢了

点击查看全图

点击查看全图


G10是NeoPDP面板
S10不是的



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凡事记住三个字--莫争

发表于:2009-09-07 19:01:33

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丝米达有那么强大?先锋我倒是承认的 高端的秒杀松下 丝米达的么。。。。。downloading



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这个家伙很懒,什么也没留下......

发表于:2009-09-07 19:01:59

御姐
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G10是NeoPDP面板 S10不是的
jdbbs上评测过,这个屏没有优势,只是亮度上给人了变化downloadingdownloading



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战火硝烟中的背叛与我们在太平盛世中的背叛相较而言,就天真单纯得多了!
初恋的人们心存紧张并满怀柔情,但却可以抵御一切------只因为心如烈火!

发表于:2009-09-07 19:03:28

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downloading
还有50寸那台接DVD,我只接色差。音频线没接。有很大的噪音。

看DVD要把电视机的声音调到0downloading



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不是你经得起诱惑,而是诱惑还不够大

发表于:2009-09-07 19:03:37

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丝米达有那么强大?先锋我倒是承认的 高端的秒杀松下 丝米达的么。。。。。

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黑皇帝太强大了 它留下了一个传说后就走了



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发表于:2009-09-07 19:04:07

御姐
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丝米达有那么强大?先锋我倒是承认的 高端的秒杀松下 丝米达的么。。。。。

点击查看全图
这道不可否认,北美LCD,三星一直是第一的downloadingdownloadingdownloading



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战火硝烟中的背叛与我们在太平盛世中的背叛相较而言,就天真单纯得多了!
初恋的人们心存紧张并满怀柔情,但却可以抵御一切------只因为心如烈火!

发表于:2009-09-07 19:04:09

nye
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引用:

G10是NeoPDP面板 S10不是的
jdbbs上评测过,这个屏没有优势,只是亮度上给人了变化

点击查看全图

点击查看全图


在百思买看过 同一画面 字幕黑边 G10略黑一些 画面色彩几乎无区别



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发表于:2009-09-07 19:05:33
推荐:S*H*E你是卖艺还是卖色! ...第35楼...

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G10是NeoPDP面板 S10不是的

jdbbs上评测过,这个屏没有优势,只是亮度上给人了变化

点击查看全图

点击查看全图


说是这么说,不过具体就不清楚了。至少现在松下在大力推崇NeoPDP,买来个不是Neo的心理总归感觉是阉割货



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凡事记住三个字--莫争

发表于:2009-09-07 19:06:45

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哟。。。。



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路加福音15-7:我告诉你们,一个罪人悔改,在天上也要这样为他欢喜,较比为九十九个不用悔改的义人,欢喜更大。
KDS模型友爱群:71538682

发表于:2009-09-07 19:07:50

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说是这么说,不过具体就不清楚了。至少现在松下在大力推崇NeoPDP,买来个不是Neo的心理总归感觉是阉割货
42的差2K了要,在BB和三大不知道为什么,我看出的S10就是比LCD暗,还是暗的多......downloadingdownloading



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战火硝烟中的背叛与我们在太平盛世中的背叛相较而言,就天真单纯得多了!
初恋的人们心存紧张并满怀柔情,但却可以抵御一切------只因为心如烈火!

发表于:2009-09-07 19:08:44

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丝米达有那么强大?先锋我倒是承认的 高端的秒杀松下 丝米达的么。。。。。

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下面是美国CNET评测原文:
In the battle between plasma and LCD, the former generally comes out ahead in most areas of our picture quality tests, while the latter has dominated the less-important, but somehow costlier, dimension of depth. LCDs like the Samsung and Sony edge-lit models, and the Hitachi UT37X902 cost a hefty premium for their manufacturers knocking an inch or two from the standard panel's thickness. Now plasma makers want in on that premium, and PNB850 and PNB860 series represent Samsung's less-depth-for-more-money gambit.
Like the company's thicker, less-expensive PNB650 series, the PNB850/860 series offers excellent picture quality with accurate color, deep black levels--albeit not as deep as the best plasmas and LCDs--and solid video processing. In fact, we awarded the two Samsung plasmas the same Performance score, although the PNB850/860 gets the nod in Design. If you can stomach the higher price and like the thin profile, however, the PNB850/860 makes a compelling option.
Series note: We performed a hands-on evaluation of the 50-inch Samsung PN50B850, but this review also applies to the 58-inch member of the series, model PN58B850, as well as to the two models in the PNB860 series: the 50-inch PN50B860 and the 58-inch PNB58860. According to Samsung, the only difference between all four models, aside from screen size, is the presence in the 860 models of a manual option for 1080p/24 processing and an extra calibration mode (see below for details). For that reason, we expect the picture quality of all four models to be very similar.
Design
Editors' note: Some of the Design and Features elements are identical between the Samsung PNB850/860 series and the Samsung PNB650 series we reviewed, so readers of the earlier review may experience some deja vu when reading the same sections below.

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At just 1.2 inches thick, the PNB850/860 cuts a slim figure when seen edge-on.


The PNB850/860 series is commendably sleek and high-tech, even by Samsung's standards, and is easily the coolest looking plasma HDTV we've seen this year. Its principal design trait is the thin depth--just 1.2 inches thick--which out-thins every plasma on the market except for Panasonic's ultra-expensive Z1. Here's where we mention that we don't really consider the 3- to 4-inch depths of standard flat-panel TVs anything to sneeze at, but if you want that razor-thin look from the side, the 850/860 series is your only somewhat reasonably priced plasma option.

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Glossy black and a transparent edge comprise the Samsung's understated design scheme.

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The transparent stalk is reflected in the stainless steel-colored stand base.



Other exterior characteristics include hidden speakers and a glossy black frame that's equal in width on all four sides. It lacks the "one sheet of glass" design of Panasonic's V10 series, but the frame is a bit slimmer around the sides, which terminate in a transparent edge that lends a high-tech luster. Samsung's trademark transparent stalk is also in evidence, which allows the panel to swivel atop the substantial, stainless steel-colored metal base.



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凡事记住三个字--莫争

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说是这么说,不过具体就不清楚了。至少现在松下在大力推崇NeoPDP,买来个不是Neo的心理总归感觉是阉割货
42的差2K了要,在BB和三大不知道为什么,我看出的S10就是比LCD暗,还是暗的多......

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我倒是觉得画面色彩G10略微饱和一些些 亮度略微亮一些些
但是字幕黑边的黑度 倒是一眼就能看出和S10系列的区别的



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The well-designed main menu gets a blue color palette.


Samsung used the same menu system as last year and we still think it's one of the best in the business. Big, highly legible text is set against transparent backgrounds that occupy almost the whole screen. Getting around is easy and there's helpful explanatory text along the bottom to describe the different selections.
The remote control is similar to last year too, aside from a sort of fin added to the back that keeps it stable on a flat surface, and we're definitely fans. The buttons are big, backlit, and easily differentiated by size and shape, and we liked the dedicated "Tools" key that offers quick access to picture and sound modes, the sleep timer, and the picture-in-picture controls. However, we didn't like the remote's glossy black finish that picked up more than its share of dulling fingerprints after a few minutes.
Features
The PNB850/850 series has the numerous features we'd expect in a flagship plasma. Samsung and Panasonic share many spec sheet bullet points, including "600Hz" panels that are said to improve motion resolution/reduce blur. The best thing we can say about this feature is to ignore it; the number was created in response to the 120Hz and 240Hz refresh rates of LCDs. Plasma technology is inherently less subject to blurring than LCD, and in any case it's really hard to see any difference with real material.
Like Panasonic, Samsung can also properly deal with 1080p/24 sources. The main difference between the PNB850 series and the PNB860 series concerns the options available with those sources. On the B860 models, there's a Cinema Smooth option in the Film Mode menu that let you manually turn on or off the 96Hz refresh rate that allows proper display of 24p signals (however, it does not introduce dejudder processing). The B850 models lack that manual setting and simply switch automatically to the proper 96Hz refresh rate when you input a 24p signal. See performance for more details.
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Yahoo Widgets appear along the bottom of the screen.



Samsung's main interactive capability is supplied by Yahoo! widgets. The system gathers Internet-powered information nodules, called "snippets," into a bar along the bottom of the screen. The model we reviewed came with widgets for stocks, weather, news, and Flickr photos, plus YouTube, Yahoo video, sports scores, games and, Twitter--and more are sure to appear in the near future. For more information, check out our full review of Yahoo widgets. That review is based on our experiences with a Samsung UN46B7000, and our impressions of the system on the PNB850/860 are mostly the same, including its relatively sluggish response time. Mainly for that reason, we still prefer VieraCast to Yahoo Widgets.

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Other interactive features on this set abound. Unlike the Panasonic, it can stream videos, photos, and music from DLNA-certified devices via the network connection, as well from its USB ports--that can connect to MP3 players, USB thumbdrives, and digital cameras (we didn't test this capability). There's also built-in "content," such as recipes, games, workout guides, and a slide show of high-definition art and photos with music. We went into depth discussing the underwhelming content features last year, which are similar this time around, so if you're interested check out the Interactive section of the 2008 Samsung LN46A750 review.



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说是这么说,不过具体就不清楚了。至少现在松下在大力推崇NeoPDP,买来个不是Neo的心理总归感觉是阉割货

42的差2K了要,在BB和三大不知道为什么,我看出的S10就是比LCD暗,还是暗的多......

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这个就仁者见仁了
如果说性价比其实长虹的也不错,就是品牌差了点



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凡事记住三个字--莫争

发表于:2009-09-07 19:12:50

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我反正定了S10C了,准备101入手downloadingdownloading



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初恋的人们心存紧张并满怀柔情,但却可以抵御一切------只因为心如烈火!

发表于:2009-09-07 19:13:13

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丝米达有那么强大?先锋我倒是承认的 高端的秒杀松下 丝米达的么。。。。。




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黑皇帝太强大了 它留下了一个传说后就走了

先锋 kuro 貌似BB还有卖downloading



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这个家伙很懒,什么也没留下......

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丝米达有那么强大?先锋我倒是承认的 高端的秒杀松下 丝米达的么。。。。。






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黑皇帝太强大了 它留下了一个传说后就走了
先锋 kuro 貌似BB还有卖

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如果KURO还在的话 基本上要手握3万大元+ 才能一亲芳泽



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丝米达有那么强大?先锋我倒是承认的 高端的秒杀松下 丝米达的么。。。。。









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黑皇帝太强大了 它留下了一个传说后就走了
先锋 kuro 貌似BB还有卖




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如果KURO还在的话 基本上要手握3万大元+ 才能一亲芳泽


山上卖过史上最便宜的kuro 50寸的1W5 内部库存清货



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这个家伙很懒,什么也没留下......

发表于:2009-09-07 19:32:28

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downloadingdownloadingdownloadingdownloadingdownloadingdownloading



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这个家伙很懒,什么也没留下......

发表于:2009-09-07 19:39:07
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G10是NEOPDP的试验品 不推荐



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